Showing posts with label scam. Show all posts
Showing posts with label scam. Show all posts

Saturday, 18 April 2015

Ashy Bines 7 Day Kick Start Program – Another Attempt in Gaining Quick Bucks

Original post can be found here.


Ashy Bines and no doubt, husband Steven Evans, the internet marketing brains behind her brand have just released: “ASHY’S 7 DAY KICKSTART PROGRAM” 
This very deliberately low priced teaser program is another unethical, sneaky attempt to lure in more innocent Ashy followers and leave them feeling the need to buy more! 
This program has been released only days after she has said (direct quote): “I happen to like helping people…if I can suggest ways for people to stay healthy, I don’t need to be paid for that, I genuinely like helping”. Yet, this program is asking women to pay for NOTHING MORE than a glorified “day in the life of Ashy Bines”. 
Putting the money grab plan aside, this 7 Day Kickstart Program is also a totally irresponsible approach to health, fitness and wellbeing! 

It promotes a “quick fix” mentality as opposed to a healthy long term plan and it’s appalling that she promotes (below) a 7 Day Program as a perfect way to counteract a “binge weekend”!
Is there anything that this pair won’t charge for???


Saturday, 30 August 2014

Ashy Bines Re-cap, Plus Guidelines FREE!





Just a re-cap of the activities her business undertakes, and items she is selling to vulnerable, gullible women.
  • Committed tax fraud 
  • Plagiarism (she doesn't even edit out the source of where she copied and pasted from) 
  • Has broken Australian Consumer laws 
  • False advertising 
  • Encourages bullying towards those that question her or her business 
  • Not qualified to be selling these types of products, and is breaking the law by charging for it 
  • Not qualified to be giving dietary advice 
  • Business partner, and fiancĂ©, Steven Evans, stalks, harasses and threatens women 
  • Steven Evans has previously put a $5,000 bounty on the head of an unknown person (at the time) towards ABBBC customers for the identity of the person who was giving away all of the company secrets 
  • Has threatened legal action against those who have downloaded their "plan" from free hosting websites, and those who have posted images of said "plan," for Plagiarism 
  • Has admitted to getting death threats and being harassed, but no report was filed with police, and there is no proof it has even occurred
  • Finds time to respond to the "haters," yet can't find the time to address customer complaints



A Current Affair story on Ashy Bines





DON'T FORGET!


You can download the entire plan >for FREE!
I can assure you, that it is not worth the $69 advertised price (excludes hidden GST, and is illegal advertising), but I wish you all to make your own judgments and see for yourself. Leave a comment or reply here below, if you wish to leave any feedback. You can also have a look at one of my latest blogs, which goes into more depth and detail. Feel free to leave feedback there as well, if you wish to.







Editors note: All comments not relating to the topic of this entry, or are hatefully directed towards myself, or to moderators, will be removed, no questions asked. The amount of negativity from catty women has been a drain, and I could care less about your petty shit. This blog is to inform the public, and help them make their own decision regarding the plan, not to feed your ego or make you feel good about thinking you're winning the argument. How childish. 

I have nothing against the boot camps. Not once in any blog have I expressed any concern towards that aspect of the ABBBC business, so could you please stop putting words in my mouth.

Tuesday, 11 February 2014

Clean Eating Diet Plan Facebook Page Out of Action

The Ashy Bines Clean Eating Diet Plan page is reportedly missing. This has been the third or fourth time this has happened. This comes after their Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge Facebook page was removed some time in the last few weeks.

Facebook also does not allow you to link their Clean Eating Diet Plan Facebook page anywhere as it is considered as “unsafe”.

Will they reveal as to why they have disappeared? Or will they cover it up again like we've seen in the past?

Update: It would seem that their pages are in fact being removed for purchasing Facebook likes



Thursday, 20 December 2012

Ashy's Unprofessional Rant on Facebook

Surprisingly, Ashy Bines made a rant on her official Facebook page in early December. It was both unprofessional and immature, and, as a director and brand identity, it demonstrates not only a lack of maturity by herself, but her post was factually incorrect.

The post in question below:



Here are some of her customers responses. (Apart from the usual "haters gonna hate" and we must all be jealous remarks by the ignorant)
There were some well worded objections to the content of her post.




Let us now analyse what Ashy Bines has said:
Check out my interview with Beauty Haven !!
As always a mixture of negative comments about plastic surgery and me being a evil money hungry witch,to make it very clear none of the negativity phases me one bit.I actually find it very funny what i see people say if i get the chance to see it ;) My staff do a great job of getting rid of negativity around me :) BEST TEAM!
The fact is you have had breast augmentation surgery, and whilst that is not important on the face of it, the fact that you advocate and use your influence to promote Cosmeditour, which organise trips to Thailand for women to have plastic surgery when none of the surgeons are FRACS qualified, is dangerous and inappropriate as well as irresponsible.

If you are always worried about what people are saying about you ,there is no possible way you could be happy.Life is way to short for that crap!

Love who you are,be proud of who you are and the people who know you are the people who matter.People are always going to make up stories and reasons to hate you without even knowing you one little bit,they will judge ,criticize and paint a picture of who they think you are because they are insecure in their own life's,wishing they had the drive to do what you do,want what you have, or they could be simply having a bad day and they need to let their frustration out on someone or something or just plain bored and picking on people is fun to them.

We do not have frustrations and we are not bored. We expect, that like any other business, whereby you have had months to correct the poor customer service, very little has been done. As we speak, there are so many women who have not received their product, and who are lost on the forum, cannot find their downloads in which they paid for. Perhaps you should focus on your customer base in lieu of yourself?

For example:



I hear so many things about my life that people say that there is just no way its true,apparently Ive had a face lift and butt implants,i inject fake tan and have lipo in my tummy,Ive come from a rich family and never had to actually work.I actually peeled potato's when i was 13 for $5 an hour for my first job and have worked ever since. Fun REAL fact of the day haha!! Wendy George my gorgeous mum can confirm this for anyone who doesn't believe me ! ( I am very glad i found a career i LOVE doing was not keen on ever peeling a damn potato again haha!)

Nobody from the advocacy page has alleged any of those issues. We know you came from a modest background and that your mother is loyal to a fault. You may love your career but you created a false document alleging you have qualification in the UK, which you do not have and that is called uttering a false document. Again, nothing personal, but please accept responsibility for the fact that your business model is flawed and despite more than 14,400+ unhappy customers, plus those who have passed through and been re-housed and assisted with refunds, and OFT complaints, the only reason why you have made changes to your website is because we reported a complaint on behalf of the unhappy customer community forcing you to comply with the law, like any other business is expected to. You are not an exception to the rule. You cannot collect monies and fail customers so dismally.  Why not send them a welcome letter with all the information including the plans each time they join? Provide a generic letter which explains all the terminology and information on how to manoeuvre their way around the forums? Is that unreasonable? Surely by now you would have implemented some sort of strategy.

oh and Im a 40 year old single mum and had lunch with peter foster last week and someone told me to do everyone a favor and put my head in a blender and end it. and guess what??
Its All BULLSHIT STORIES and nasty crap that they make up to make themselves feel better and to try bring me down. I actually laugh at the stuff i read now. Didn't even know who peter foster was until i researched him after someone claimed i was at lunch with him haha!!!

Nobody in the admin team has ever made those allegations. We all know you are 24 years old, but we also know your advice is flawed, your new forum is not providing the service required, that you charge a different price for UK residents £69.00 GBP whilst Australians pay $75.60 AUD, and you still have amendments to make to your web site because it still has flaws which could be construed as misleading. Thank goodness for OFT Queensland issuing your company with strict compliance ultimatums because as at 5 December you were still providing conflicting information which constituted breaches of OFT legislation and ACCC legislation among other things. Lest we forget your screenshot which states your money back guarantee, and your continued advertising mantra of "lose weight fast guaranteed." That is also contractually flawed. Why? Because every person is different.

As for Peter Foster, a spokesperson for the advocacy page made the comment that your business is akin to Peter Foster's business model, which was famous for taking advantage of clients and breaching laws and scamming people. Nobody has suggested you have met him nor had lunch with him, that is misleading and deceptive on its face. Another blurb from you seeking support from your fans, which has diminished your standing in the market place as immature and unprofessional.

Rant over haha Anyways check out my interview below and their amazing website heaps of great beauty stuff on there!!
http://www.beautyheaven.com.au/health-wellbeing/healthy-eating-weight/healthy-eating-tips-from-ashy-bines-clean-living-diet-plan-creator-10084?page=1

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Perhaps you can concentrate on the multiple amount of women who have not received their product, their inability to access forums, and their pleas on your fan page for assistance?

That would be called customer service, which, as a business professional and face of the ABBBC brand, is what you're expected to do.

Instead of ranting like a self obsessed ''poor me," how about you spend the time helping so many women who are lost and cannot log in, desperately looking for the opportunity to download product they have paid for. And whilst your new guidelines are pretty and an improvement, we are going to blog about its flaws once the investigation concludes with ACCC and OFT, including the abuse of your client data base to help a member of your staff cheat in a competition to the detriment of the public and in breach of competition rules.

Now let us assess the false testimonial you altered despite what this amazing girl posted in your forum. Blaming the advocacy page is an absolute embarrassment for you when the proof is tangible and clear. Even Jodie's alleged mother and one of her friends confirmed the picture on the right is not her or has been distorted to the point of unrecognisable, compared to the testimonial she made on the ABCEDP page.

The real testimonial, after five months of hard work, well done Jodie, you deserve to be congratulated on what I call an awesome effort. The kudos is all yours.



The you posted on your page fan page that Jodie's journey took 5 weeks, which was not true, and diminished the achievements of a wonderful customers journey, who trusted you and whom you exploited to sell more product. In your fan page testimonial which you posted, advising everyone that this person achieved weight loss in 5 weeks when in fact it was 5 months, you did that yourself, nobody misled you, you used it to provide false and misleading information at the expense of one of your customers whose journey was incredible.

This is what she posted herself in the online forum:



Proof of a relationship between the woman who made the testimonial and the person who alleged she was her mother?


What Ashy Bines published on her page, which is demonstrably false and misleading, is insulting to her customer, and any other customers journeys whom she may have altered. 
Note that Dot has said it is her daughter. It also does not match her testimonial on the online forum. 
Why are you so desperate to sell or mislead your fan base? No jealousy, and certainly not hating, just shaking our heads at the incredible lengths you will go too, to mislead and deceive women who trust in your testimonials. 
If you trust your product, why not be honest about it? Why delete Dot Daniels comment and ban her from the page? Is the truth too confronting, or are sales and turnover the driving force?




We have received this screenshot in which Jodie claims the transformation as hers. We believe her
Her testimonial on the facebook page clearly states she took and * MONTH JOURNEY.(an 8 month journey) SO WHY DID ABBBC CHANGE IT TO 5 WEEKS? Perhaps her mother did not recognise her own daughter or perhaps what her mother meant was this did not happen in 5 weeks!!! READ ABOVE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
(Amended by Cathy Brophy)


FIVE WEEKS IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE THE TESTIMONIAL BY JODIE ON THE FACEBOOK FORUM PROVES IT - SO WHY WAS IT CHANGED TO 5 WEEKS? 
(Amended by Cathy Brophy)

Perhaps you should concentrate on building brand credibility in the market place, as in the last six months, the same theme of customer complaints, lack of service and non receipt of product has not faltered. If you truly care about your customer base, please stop ranting like a petulant, unprofessional child, and take care of your customer complaints.


For example:



Who can take seriously a pseudonym with the initial "A" blogging about the Ashy Bines journey, with the letter "A" one out of 26 choices to make?

Thank you for taking the time to share and read this blog, which can be originally found here.
Please help the international members of the public. Use the Google function look up Ashy Bines Scam, Google; Scambook and Reviews, and see what the public have to say before you are conned by some dodgy/fake testimonials. 

I will finish that by saying there are some amazing and real transformations, and I congratulate those on their success. 

My issue is: Why not be honest? why alter information? Take responsibility and micro manage the problems which you are solely responsible for as a company. We are not doing this for the pleasure, the advocacy page admins would happily un-publish the page, once you stop thinking that the consumer law is something you do not have to comply with over at ABBBC Pty. Ltd.


Thank you the admin team of the advocacy page, and thank you to those who send in the screenshots.

Concentrate on your growing number of customer complaints please, ABBBC Pty. Ltd.

Wednesday, 28 November 2012

The Story Behind the Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge Saga



Scroll down to "Diet Plan" to view or download.


Ashy Bines and Steven Evans began running Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge in 2011. It began with approximately 600 members, and has grown by over a few thousand.

The idea of the plan was to help women achieve the "perfect bikini body" by dieting and working out. Although there were those women who achieved results, there are also an equal, if not more, amount of ex-clients that are unhappy with the claims, service, the plan itself, and the emails received.

I would also like to add: the ex-clients/customers who are/were unhappy, are NOT simply complaining because they thought this was a quick fix, or because they couldn't stick to it. These reasons will be explained further in the blog.

This is not actually a book, nor is her "weekly booklet", a book, which is very misleading.

The plan is also advertised at certain amounts, and most customers don't know they have paid extra in GST until they receive their bank statements or Tax Invoices. You wont receive an actual receipt from Ashy or Steven, as they claim the Tax Invoice is the receipt, when it is not. The fact that they charge GST without adding it to the total advertised price, is illegal.

A claim by Ashy, Steven, or a staff member on the Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge Facebook page.




Two different customer's bank statement details. The account on the right has been charged GST, while the one on the left only paid the advertised price.

Half of her before, and afters are also taken without permission from other sites not associated with ABBBC. In fact, a Google search found that some of the images posted were of fitness models who aren't even based in Australia. One of the results was of Franchesca Hartman.

"The forum is full of nasty girls who are Ashys lap dogs. If you don't go with the conformity then your booted and put down. There's a cat fight every night because there are no admins on at night. It's a waste of money. It's very sad because this scamming woman is making a lot of money out of vulnerable girls. It's no wonder none of the original girls are on there."





"I joined the Facebook group for Ashy Bines and was intending to purchase the book but her horrendous spelling on status updates put me off. I know a couple of people who've done the 12 week programme twice and I can't say they look any different. What's wrong with eating fruit, veg, lean proteins and not as much carbs?"

"Ps whoever mentioned the 'cultness' of it all: I totally agree!"

I have put quite a bit of research into this topic, and after reading all of the comments and testimonials from a large chunk of women, I have to agree with all of the above. Nasty, catty, Ashy wannabes who tear people apart if they dare challenge anything or ask questions.

Plus, it's just a high protein, low fat low carb diet, nothing special or amazing, just common sense.

The other thing that put me off was that she claims her 'look' is 90% diet 10% exercise, when really that's untrue. She is a "fitness trainer" and she is burning huge amounts of calories.

I actually agree with the basis of the diet 100%. It's the cost, the revolting "we love you Ashy! Everyone's just haters!" members and the false claims she makes about how to achieve her look, which, as by her own admission, is partly plastic surgery.

I would certainly not recommend this "plan". I say "plan," because it is not actually a plan. It is a couple of .PDF documents filled with info copied and pasted from Google search results, except they have clearly added in plenty of spelling and grammar mistakes.

I was interested in reading the documents which I did find helpful to get me on my path to clean eating, however, the lifetime access to support from Ashy Bines is nothing more than a marketing scam to get you in the door, as I am one of many that have been kicked out of the "forum" that is supposed to give me the lifetime support. I have also had emails go unanswered.

Clearly, I paid $69 + GST for not even a few pieces of paper, for a FREE email and FREE Facebook group "forum."



Both Ashy's and Steven's qualifications are questionable. You can try and ask about them, but you will more than likely get kicked off of the forum and blocked from posting on the public page, though.

One would think, that to show everyone up about "having no qualifications," would be to upload a scanned copy of them, or at least quote the organisation in which you achieved those qualifications. But nothing of the sort has happened. Something to hide perhaps?? There is also evidence that neither of them have even finished their courses, so do not actually have completion certificates. 

The "certificate" Ashy has flashed in her marketing video, isn't even real. When contacted, the institute confirmed that Ashy had not studied there, and that it was not an online course.

People have been given wrong advice, with breastfeeding and expectant mothers told the diet is fine for them, even when qualified specialists don't recommend it. Only recently have I seen a copy and pasted article posted on their page warning them that the diet is not for them. Perhaps they should have asked a doctor and nutritionist prior to selling this plan if it was suitable for mothers and mothers to be. This plan is also NOT recommended for those on medications, or, if you also purchase the supplements and protein shakes, for the lactose intolerant, with out some help from doctors and pharmacists.
Because she is telling people to "Google it" when asked questions, you have around 15,000-20,000 other girls that think they are professionals that add their own opinions, almost shoving them down your throat, because of that advice, which in almost half of the cases, is incorrect info. There is so much incorrect information that can result from a Google search, and Ashy Bines or her team are not there correcting and helping those with these questions regarding their health while on this plan.


For the Diet Plan, recipes and any other info you require, just send an email to:

freeamazingdietbodytransformationsdietplan@mail.com

and they'll be able to help you with anything you need.

  • No plan emailed, and no direction or instructions as to where to obtain it, just a link to a facebook group. Newer members may get an email with their personal log in details to a forum, where they are required to download the plan from there, rather than receiving it once the payment has been made. 
  • When you finally figure out where to obtain the "plan," it's just a bunch of recipes put together by the forum members free of charge, and info straight off of the internet that has been plagiarized, and made to be Ashy's own recipes. 
  • The facebook group/forum is not only not supportive but incredibly abusive. There is a lack of both support and advice from "professionals," and if you have any constructive criticism about the diet or the forum, or any advice on how to improve anything, you'll get shut down rudely, bullied, deleted off of the forum and blocked from everything without warning. 
  • The refund policy is simply "no refunds," and apparently Ashy and Steven have the right to delete and block you without any warning, if you say anything that upsets her, or anything bad regarding their work ethics. Australian laws state that offering no refunds is illegal, and since Ashy and Steven's business began in Broadbeach, Queensland, they fall under Australian Laws, and are not exempt. 
  • Ashy very rarely replies to any questions like she promises too. On the rare occasion that she does, she'll almost always say "google it babe."



Image taken from one of Ashy Bines - Waste of $ photo albums.


Ashy and Steve only registered the Business 19th April 2012, so any transactions they have made previous to this, they have not paid ANY TAX on at all. So all Profits have gone to them personally. Also, the Company is registered as an Australian Proprietary Limited Company. This means that the company has to have share holders, in this case, there are none, and can be sued or sue, gross operating revenue of less than $10 million for the financial year, assets of less than $5 million at the end of a financial year and fewer than 50 employees at the end of a financial year.

A quote from a concerned customer:

"Some facts that have been uncovered or discovered during my phone calls to my bank, Fair Trading Qld and the ACCC in the past two days:


  • Ashy Bines business/company/whatever it is, displays (visible only to my bank, not on my credit card statement) as "Sporting Goods Store" 
  • Fair Trading advised that whenever entering into a purchase with any online business that you should ensure that you have their ABN, a phone contact and an actual business address, not just a website address. 
  • I did not receive a Tax Invoice, including the GST from Ashy Bines which I should have received. 
  • The Ashy Bines Clean Eating Diet Plan website is not an Australian based website as it is ".com" (I don't think this is in breach of anything, but it did alert Fair Trading to thinking that I was dealing with an overseas business, until I advised them that they were based here on the Gold Coast) 
  • I have contacted the ACCC and outlined my issues/concerns with the business/company and the product sold to me. They have advised me that they are in breach of Section 18 and Section 48 (Component Pricing - where they have stated a single price, only then to charge a different price that included GST). The ACCC has today logged my complaint against this business and will be following through on that. Should they receive enough complaints, the investigation into this business will then be listed on their website (you will be able to search on their search bar on the main ACCC website if this is the case). The lady I spoke to was unable to tell me if they had received any other complaints against this business as all calls are understandably in complete confidence."




Almost half of ABBBC customers received payment details relating to We United, when they paid for Ashy Bines plan. We United is Steven Evans business and email name.

Her business partner and fiancé, Steven Evans, of Obesity Prevention Australia, and Donate Your Unwanted Fat To Charity fame, has stalked, harassed, and threatened former members. The ABBBC company claim to be taking legal action against the "haters," especially the woman who took the first steps in getting a refund and making a formal complaint, and to have them shut down, for "stealing copyrighted work," harassing, slander, and defamation of the Ashy Bines name, when their own work is plagiarised and not suited for everyone and has no warnings on certain health issues or who it is recommended for. Instead, for this information, Ashy simply states, "why didn't you do your research before purchasing!" And so will her followers, continued by personal attacks and name calling, before being blocked or ignored by staff.

One of Steven's threats was directed at a woman's child, there is one account of her "plan" being directly linked to another woman's miscarriage (as stated by qualified doctors and nurses), and another directly linked to a woman's life threatening heart condition and stomach inflammations (also stated by qualified doctors).

Credit:
Most of these comments can be found on Ashy Bines - Waste Of $ Facebook page, in the notes section.

For more information, or proof on the subject, please feel free to follow the below links. They will take you to comments, testimonials, and evidence of abuse and plagiarism, but also the Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge page itself.

If you have any comments, feel free to leave them below. For questions, follow the below link to Ashy Bines - Waste Of $ Facebook page, as they will be able to answer them more accurately.

Thanks for taking the time to read. :)



Wednesday, 7 November 2012

Amazing Bikini Body Transformations

The Trial



With the ABBBC brand under a lot of public scrutiny, Ashy Bines and Steven Evans have turned to a new Facebook page, titled Amazing Bikini Body Transformations, in order to sell the Ashy Bines branded "diet plan."

On this page you can find re-hashed ABBBC "success" stories, images of Ashy posing in swimwear and on gym equipment, as well as constant Facebook bot replies to simple questions that link you to Ashy's Diet Plan website instead of giving simple yes, no, or one sentence answers.
A lot of the women are leaving comments on this new page, notifying ABBBC that they are finding it very difficult to understand what it is they're buying, what's in it, and how much it will cost, because of Ashy Bines and co. lack of response to simple queries. Of course, these comments are also left ignored, aside from Facebook bot comments linking to Ashy Bines Diet Plan, telling the user to look up the information there instead.

Also in question is the refund policy, in which Ashy and co. have left no doubt about, in some of the Facebook page's comments on Amazing Bikini Body Transformations posts.



Any person who has purchased this plan is now entitled to a refund, because ABBBC have guaranteed the policy.

The Verdict

With Ashy and Steven's lack of knowledge and qualifications, and the amount of bad press ABBBC has accumulated, I'm honestly surprised that women are still falling for it.

All of the information found in her "diet plan" is not only common sense, but can be found all over the internet for free! All you have to do is open up the Google search engine in your internet browser!

But, to save some women the trouble, I have added Ashy Bines updated Diet Plan and new Recipe .PDF below.

For those who wish to download the files in the following links, simply click on the "File" tab under the heading, and then "Download." Alternatively, using the "Ctrl S" command also saves the document.

Ashy Bines Updated Diet Plan

Updated Recipes

Amazing Bikini Body Transformations - Waste of $ Awareness Page

Friday, 19 October 2012

What Ashy Bines = Waste of $ Stand For

Warning: A Long Read


It takes a lot of courage for people to take an activist stand and fight for the rights of consumers and/or to engage in customer advocacy. Ashy Bines = Waste of $ is a consumer community which provides evidence and information on how clients can obtain refunds, how they can find alternative health solutions and we also focus on the unethical conduct of ABBBC (Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge) having regard to the high volume of customers who are unhappy with the product Ashy Bines is selling and / or the service received by her.

The Primary Issues:

  • The Ashy Bines Clean Eating Diet Plan is not a diet plan, it is only guidelines but it is still advertised as a diet plan which misleads clients into believing they are receiving a structured meal advice program. They are not receiving such a diet plan, they are only receiving guidelines. A 28 page .PDF!
  • The Ashy Bines Clean Eating Forum is un-moderated by professionals which has led to individuals selling banned substances that are categorised as offences both under the Federal Crimes Act and the Customs Act and which contain dangerous ingredients banned in this country at this time. (see previous blogs). 
  • The Ashy Bines customer service offers 24/7 access to forum with professionals yet individuals have to wait 24/48 hours for a response some wait longer and in some circumstances the advice is negligent, demonstrated as an example on one of our blogs relating to the advice given to a pregnant woman which was reviewed by Diet Chat Accredited Dieticians which demonstrates the advice given by Ashy Bines was negligent. 

The service sold by ABBBC of 24/7 moderated forums is a furphy.

Ashy Bines claims that she is Australia's Leading Transformation Specialist and Body Training Specialist, and has awarded herself an award entitled Best Female Health and Fitness Program in Australia, yet there is no such award which has been provided to her nor does this award exist.


Ashy Bines claims she received qualifications from the UK, fact, she never attended this course, it has to be attended in person at the college in the UK, and we verified this fact by email and telephone contact. Thus this is also unethical misleading but lacking integrity from a corporate director of ABBBC Pty. Ltd.

The FAQ’s state once off fee of $69 yet when you arrive to pay you receive the additional cost of GST which also tends to mislead the client. A qualified dietician does not charge GST for a diet plan they are exempt.
Link.

The “no refund policy” which has been altered three times in the last three months is a breach of consumer laws. You cannot say that a person is never entitled to a refund.

ABBBC engages in misleading and deceptive conduct.

The Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge = Waste of $ is not a forum to bully Ashy Bines, it separates the individual, from the corporate brand Ashy Bines and ABBBC and we stand for potential customers having access to information to lodge appropriate complaints, make applications for refunds if required and we try and direct them to alternative health solutions which offer a free service.

We support Diet Chat because they are accredited clinical dieticians, because they offer a free health forum and advice to women and tailored meal plans for $19.00. We do not and are not affiliated with them. We respect their Accreditation and their innovation in the health sector.

We also support Red Rocket because it is a free group which provides a nutritionist, qualified PT’s and personal advice. We are not affiliated with them.

We also support Clean Eaters Group. Why? Because we believe clean eating is a great concept when monitored because the administrators of this group engage in sensible practices which excludes illegal drugs, and inappropriate dietary advice which can lead to ill health.

We have nothing personal against Ashy Bines the person. We do not know her and we are not interested in her personal life. We are intelligent enough as a community to not only separate the person from the corporate brand but to then seek answers and demand accountability for some transformations which we have proven to be non-members of Ashy Bines Clean Eating coupled with a complete failure to provide the service/product delivery promised to her customers.

Further by offering a blanket guarantee that a person can lose weight fast ‘guaranteed’ we say this is also a breach of ACL legislation, not only does it not qualify as ‘puff’ it falls into the category of conduct which tends to induce women to believe that her diet will guarantee results.

Now, people have to take some responsibility and do some research that is why there is a GOOGLE function, but when you are talking about the vulnerabilities of women who are desperate to lose weight and who see, on a daily basis, photo shopped photos and some fantastic inspirational stories, the emotionality takes over and common sense seems to dissipate thus why when there are 35,000 members in the Ashy Bines Clean Eating Group and 11,000 unhappy customers ( not counting those who have passed through our service and moved on once we have assisted them with resolution processes).

Now you have to ask the question what is ABBBC doing wrong? Why are they not listening and are they just promoting an unsustainable lifestyle which has resulted in a backlash of thousands of unhappy customers, when they receive the product and question “what is this?” “I expected a book!” “I am shocked by the presentation and information.” "I expected a diet plan!”


Is Ashy Bines being bullied?

One has to differentiate between what is bullying as opposed to what is consumer adovacy. Here is the definition of cyberbullying. Just hover your mouse over the bold text word for the link.

We focus on using information which we research and then obtain evidence to educate women and former and potential customers about ABBBC Pty Ltd and the brand Ashy Bines, not Ashy Bines personally, so please make that distinction.
We do not remove comments in the sense that people are (as per our disclaimer) responsible for their own comments) however our Mission Statement makes it clear what our objectives are and what we are trying to achieve. We will however remove hateful comments which are a breach of Terms and Policies of Facebook if we see them.

We believe that ABBBC and the Brand Ashy Bines lacks ethics and integrity when engaging in the conduct of its business. We are not saying that there are not success stories nor that the bootcamps are not successful and well run, our focus is the points previously outlined. Hence we do not believe we are engaging in conduct which is categorised as bullying when we use facts and investigate issues and post information to rebut what has been said and or stated by third parties associated with ABBBC and the brand Ashy Bines.

The page has evolved from its creation to a factually researched information/whistle blower activist community.
We object to the exploitation of women’s transformations for the purpose on-selling more product/service when some of those women’s photos are subject to abuse and are vulnerable to viral uploading without the person being properly versed or vetted nor explained how their transformation could lead to hurtful hate comments and then be exploited to being downloaded from the fanpage and end up all over the world. We note one of those customers ended up on an unsavoury sexual deviancy advertisement in the UK.

The rest of the broader issues are discussed on the actual advocacy page.


How Ashy Bines Supporters Treat Us: An Example

The admins and other members of the advocacy page are constantly under attack with the most hateful and disgraceful comments, or with comments which are made, then allegations that the opposite has occurred on another page in order to try and discredit members of the admin team. We work very hard to give everyone a voice and we do not want to publish most of the horrible and cruel posts which have been posted but in this latest example (which is not as emotive nor particularly offensive), we were the subject of falsehoods and vitriol, and once the person was caught being dishonest, not only did he report the posts which demonstrated his lack of integrity but he removed his own post and alleged he was blocked when that was absolutely incorrect.

To be fair, his partner was blocked, a number of people reported her post, it spammed and blocked, and as soon as I realised she had been blocked she was immediately unblocked so she was given a right of reply.
We try not censure people’s right to express their opinion as long as it is respectful.

I will not name this poster because unlike many people, this young woman was a real victim of cyberbullying and suffered a great deal at the hands of a vexatious and obsessed woman, so her identity will be protected. I believe her passion in defending Ashy Bines, stems from her own experiences of being a victim, and as tragic as it is, she has never really taken the time to really look at how the page conducts itself, which has, since August, worked hard to promote evidence based information.







A valid point, there are a lot of dangerous products in the market place, but this page is a consumer advocacy page for ABBBC customer service issues, and clearly neither him nor the person who he calls his partner read the actual links which explains what we were saying about Oxy and Jack3d, including that ABBBC or Ashy Bines would not be advocating for the sale of this product on their closed facebook forum given Ashy Bines ‘the brand’ and personal views on Duromine.

It is a clean eating forum, and until the ingredients of these substances are changed, ABBBC could be held vicariously liable for the sale on their company forum in the event that the posts continue to be unmonitored.

Yet these products continue to be sold and further should a customer become ill or have severe side effects, the liability falls not only on the seller but because its in the context of the ABBBC forum, then it poses some ethical and potential civil liability litigation risks given that ABBBC have employed moderators to monitor the facebook forum.

What happened next? He was not banned, nor was his comment spammed. Its still up at 5:15 pm


And still there over 3 hours later.

What happened next? He removed the posts, and reported the account of the admin in order to block her account. Why? When he was still liking posts after 9:38 pm and still remains un-banned...


After reporting Cathy Brophy’s account to Facebook, when he was caught lying about how the page respected his post and left it untainted without removing nor banning him, his report attempts to hide the evidence and the fact that he has made a public post which is demonstrated as misleading and ill conceived.

There were no breaches of Facebook Terms and Policies, Brad was caught in a lie, removed his own post, cheekily came back at 9:36 pm to 'like' a post after he reported the posts which demonstrated his lack of credibility and integrity.

We are using this as an example of what we have to put up with every day. We respected Brad’s point of view and debated the issue with him. We do not ban people without a warning or unless the behaviour is outrageous it crosses all boundaries of acceptable societal norms.

For the record, we are not lazy, hateful, overweight, fatties who hate or hate on others. We are an educated team who spend the time doing research and try our best to provide feedback and information to our members.

We listen to what they have to say, and we accept constructive criticism. We may not agree but we have at times conceded when we have made an error of judgement and we take responsibility for it.

We do not get paid, we do not ask for recognition we are activists for a collective of women who need assistance with a program whereby they feel as though they did not get what they paid for and the conduct and or business practices of ABBBC leave some questionable issues which have been canvassed.

Whilst we took the time to blog about the dangers of banned substances it seemed to make no difference to the moderators on the facebook forum, as after our blogs were written the following posts were made by desperate women seeking banned substances to increase weight loss fast!






Accordingly, despite the fact that we wrote the blogs, that it is against the rules of the forum, there are still posts selling illegal drugs! Some members are sensible but these posts do not comply with ABBBC rules of their forum so why is it un-moderated? They could be held vicariously liable for facilitating the sale of banned substances which involves offences listed under the Criminal Code Act 1995 and the Commonwealth Criminal Code.

This is not bullying, this is a very serious topic about the importation of a currently banned substance. We raised the issues, including ingredients and side effect in the following:

Blog 1 and Blog 2.

We created these only to educate people of what the product is, its ingredients, its functions and its side effects.

Ashy Bines Behind the Sales of Illegal Supplements?

The issues regarding Ashy Bines promoting or selling illegal supplements are not new, as discussed in my previous entries, but as of late, a new Facebook group called ABBBC, Buy, Swap, Sell has come to the attention of myself, and other concerned professionals.

In this group, in which Ashy Bines is a moderator, members and admin facilitate the sell or swap of illegal OxyELITE powders and supplements. This could have serious implications in any case brought against her and ABBBC.


"Yet the sale of Oxy – is being sold albeit it is banned and places ABBBC Pty Ltd in questionable circumstances as to the risk of civil liability and criminal prosecution for permitting and facilitating the sale of banned substances via their company facebook groups."




Monday, 8 October 2012

Ashy Bines Running Out of Supporters?

Lately, in the Ashy Bines camp, we have seen old, re-hashed, or stolen images with fake testimonials, making the transformations on their Facebook.

Could this be a sign? The end of the Ashy scam? Who knows.

It seems that since her diet plan went out over the Internet for free, her transformations, testimonials, and also her fan base and support, has started dwindling. So much so, that they are now offering a $3000 first place cash prize to anybody who sends in a transformation image plus testimonial.

I wonder if the entrants realise, that once these images and testimonials are in the hands of ABBBC, that they have no more rights over how the images are distributed?
I'm going to say to all women (or men) who enter, do so at your own risk. Once that submit button is clicked, bye bye privacy.

On the plus side, it seems that, aside from the hardcore supporters, she isn't doing as much, or any more, harm to vulnerable young women.

Competition behing held by ABBBC on Facebook

Monday, 1 October 2012

Ashy Bines Fakes a Qualifications Certificate In Latest YouTube Video

In her latest video to suck in the vulnerable and impressionable, with "deals" and overused gimmicks, Ashy has included an animation of a certificate that has her "qualifications" printed on them.
When the institution printed on this "certificate" was contacted, they confirmed that Ashy has not completed such courses.

Further more, when enrolling in training institutes, schools and universities, or Tafe, it is required to print your full name for the course list. "Ashleigh Bines" is what should be printed on her "certificate" if it really is her legally identifying form of documentation showing her qualifications, "Ashy Bines" is unacceptable. They do not allow or require nicknames to be submitted. These are only used in classrooms during verbal conversations, never on official or legally binding documents, such as the T's & C's of enrolling, which most schools e.t.c require.


Below is the screen shot of the certificate in her video, plus date it was uploaded. Also, the time in which the "certificate" appears.

 This video is the latest upload on gcchallengetv, spruiking her plan, as they have not uploaded in a while. (I wonder what for ha ha)



The YouTube Video in question